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The real reason Boeing's new plane crashed twice

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This isn’t just a computer bug. It’s a scandal.
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Two Boeing airplanes have fallen out of the air and crashed in the past six months. On the surface, this is a technical failure. But the real story is about a company's desire to beat their rival.
Read about Boeing's efforts to get the 737 Max reinstated for flight here: www.vox.com/2019/4/5/18296646/boeing-737-max-mcas-software-update
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Rob Rob
Rob Rob 2 ساعات قبل
Greedy yank Bastards need to pay for this crime!!!!!! Boycott!!!!!!!!! Ty for this video!!!!
Dr. Citizen Brain
Dr. Citizen Brain 2 ساعات قبل
Buy Airbus
dan taylor
dan taylor 2 ساعات قبل
In 1969 humans put a man on the moon, 50 years later we're simply re hashing engines and call it an update. This is piss poor engineering. I think the kids of the 1960's would be so pissed off with this snail paced advancement. We should be shifting millions of passengers at mach 5 by now piss poor, simply piss poor.
basebrat64
basebrat64 3 ساعات قبل
i saw a picture being held up of a dead muslim. cool.
clomagro
clomagro 3 ساعات قبل
Everyone in the world should know, U.S. companies don't care about people, or their lives. Only money. They always find a way to blame something else. Hell the U.S was the last country to ground the planes. Shows how much they care about it's own citizens. Money is all that matters.
Tom Jones
Tom Jones 3 ساعات قبل
Boeing will hopefully be SUED INTO OBLIVION over this exercise in FRAUD and GROSS NEGLIGENCE 😡😡😡
Shantanu Mathur
Shantanu Mathur 4 ساعات قبل
Hundreds died because of Greed . yet no one from Boing will even send 1 day in jail , such is our justice system.
Adam Klein
Adam Klein 4 ساعات قبل
"The real reason Boeing's new plane crashed twice" the REAL reason - the pilots were trash, did not follow Boeing procedures, poor CRM, poor threat and error management, poor aeronautical decision making. You want to read about good pilots, Qantas 72. Bad pilots, Colgan 3407. Worse pilots Air France 447.
Valentins Tag
Valentins Tag 5 ساعات قبل
And this is why Airbus is better, they don't take a risk, they just do the work and if it's not more used, they kill the prdoctline like the A380. And don't sell rubbish again!
Lusade Devron
Lusade Devron 5 ساعات قبل
This is beyond evil. why has there not been a class action lawsuit?
Mc
Mc 5 ساعات قبل
Couldn't they of just made the wheels and landing gear bigger instead of moving the engine up?
J P
J P 5 ساعات قبل
What's the deal with everybody shoes and wallets lined up in matching order? Where's the people why aren't there shoes on their feet? Why aren't their wallets and IDs on their person? Just like the Titanic when they found it there were no bodies anywhere just a bunch of shoes and luggage. Kind of like the flight in Pennsylvania on 9/11 no bodies were ever found no bones no teeth... Wake up people
Ahmet Baydar
Ahmet Baydar 6 ساعات قبل
Uhm. Another great American Company. Come on guys. Americans doesn't care money. Quality, safety and future of the earth are the most important things for them. Ops... Iraq is different story. Oil doesn't means money. They don't kill people for money or oil. Yes, yes... I'm sure. Dear Donald Trump. I'm starting to save money to buy a Boeing 737 Max for you. Please use it everyday.
Eric Rogers
Eric Rogers 6 ساعات قبل
I would not care what airbus is doing, airbus past record of crashes says enough. There is or will be a shortage of twin engines single aisle commercial airplanes. What airbus is doing with their gamer controls is not flying well. Boeing did not have to compete, all they had to do was to make much safer pilot in command airplanes.
Bojan Subasic
Bojan Subasic 6 ساعات قبل
Fabulous knowledge 😡
Emmanuel J. Okey I
Emmanuel J. Okey I 8 ساعات قبل
Instead of repositioning the engine, they should have built a taller standing wheel base, like the lift kits on big trucks.
Extroxer t
Extroxer t 8 ساعات قبل
OOF god darn it its always the cockroaches who survive everything even flight 610
Max Binnewies
Max Binnewies 8 ساعات قبل
In an altitude graph you can not see whether the plane is in full thrust. It just shows altitude
P M
P M 10 ساعات قبل
So sloppy. Nothing's safe anymore, especially when CEOs and government entities are sloppy.
ELoveHo
ELoveHo 10 ساعات قبل
so they didn't even apologise? just said they'll upgrade the remaining planes? wtf???
Daniel Ho
Daniel Ho 12 ساعات قبل
History repeats itself -- Pilot vs Plane, the 737 Max edition. We've all forgotten the lessons of China Air 140 crash w/ the Airbus A300 in 1994. Bottom line: 1. Controls of the plane must be logical and predictable to the pilots. 2. All air-nanny software must have an easy override switch so in-flight problems can be solved more easily. To me, the MCAS system should warn and advise the pilot what to do. It should NOT override the physical controls. Of course I'm not a pilot .. only a backseat one. The FAA's mandate is to promote air travel AND make it safer. Surely there's a conflict of interest here. It's about time FAA is broken up into 2: A. FAP - Federal Aviation Promotion -- promote and facilitate more air travel. B. FAS - Federal Aviation Safety - make the airline system safer.
Miqo'te Lover
Miqo'te Lover 12 ساعات قبل
Thats brutal.
luca kro
luca kro 13 ساعات قبل
Thats not on boeing airlines need to maintain an aircraft or else the manufacturer cannot be responsible so you’re now telling me this Failed sensors downs plane! Who would have guessed
henkams
henkams 13 ساعات قبل
the customer is always right, so in this case the passenger, never, ever step aboard on a B 737 Max! . Chose an airline that does not have these planes.
Haimn Cukerman
Haimn Cukerman 13 ساعات قبل
Прекрасная америкосовская разработка. Побольше бы таких !
Haimn Cukerman
Haimn Cukerman 13 ساعات قبل
Wspaniała amerykańska konstrukcja. Więcej by takich !
Joe M
Joe M 15 ساعات قبل
There has been at least 5 reports to the FAA from US pilots having similar issues with the 737 Max aircraft however, none have resulted in crashes. Yes, there is a design flaw with the MCAS system but quick and proper actions from the crew can lead to a safe outcome. Boeing should have developed a better training program that discussed the MCAS system, how it operates and how to disable it in the event of a malfunction.
Bob Boberson
Bob Boberson 15 ساعات قبل
Bad pilot training. Very simple.
meerkat1954
meerkat1954 15 ساعات قبل
Capitalism at its finest, a machine for killing people as profitably as possible. This is what deregulation of corporations brings us. Death by the hundreds.
Bal K
Bal K 16 ساعات قبل
And here I thought it was because Vox is liberal soy boy cancer....
seahawksphan
seahawksphan 17 ساعات قبل
How much you wanna bet this video is sponsored by airbus 😂🤣
Andre Nguyen
Andre Nguyen 17 ساعات قبل
It doesn't matter if it really is. Two planes of the same model same crash pattern. I'm pretty sure Beoing has a hell of explanation to convince customers.
Toasty Volvo
Toasty Volvo 18 ساعات قبل
So many problems? You listed two incidents that killed many people. I don’t see the legitimacy here.
TheCumminsturbo2
TheCumminsturbo2 18 ساعات قبل
All of this is comes down to a society that wants to rely on technology to do there job and ultimately makes a dumb society and guess what people were much happier with out all the technology
Γιώργος Μπέκας
Γιώργος Μπέκας 18 ساعات قبل
AIRBUS is the safest plane. PERIOD.
Kevin Mai
Kevin Mai 18 ساعات قبل
God so many lives lost
ArmyOfAll
ArmyOfAll 18 ساعات قبل
Capitalism kills people for profit. I'm shocked. -.-
Drew Pantano
Drew Pantano 18 ساعات قبل
Why didnt they just increase the height of the plane? So its further away from the ground and slid the new engine and advertise it that way?
deepsea21
deepsea21 19 ساعات قبل
VOX... Good reporting but the issue goes far beyond what you have reported. My friend has been an AA tech for 30+ years and after the first MAX went down he told me to never get on a MAX plane. Even he wouldn't fly a MAX plane on standby as an AA employee if that was the plane available and he can fly FREE! The issue goes deeper as all airplane manufacturers initially design a great, stable plane but then they start "stretching" them to hold more and more passengers which moves their center of gravity that should be over the wings further and further away. Boeing isn't the only one that stretches to the max.. they all do. But, Boeing stretched the 737 too far and to the point that they had to place the engines far ahead of the wings to try and restore some center of gravity that could only be managed with sophisticated flight control systems. If you visit the Boeing website and read about the 737 MAX they highlight the new placement of the engines in front of the wings... As if that is a good thing. They placed them there to try and restore some form of manageable balance to the plane as it had been stretched to the MAX. Yes, the more efficient engines were larger and had to reside higher up but that was not the whole story. I don't care what Boeing passes through as a flight control software patch, I will NOT fly on a plane that has been stretched to the point it is not sound and requires sophisticated flight control systems to keep it in the air. Our military has the stealth wing bomber that is a great achievement but it can't be flown by our greatest pilots without the highly sophisticated flight control systems that keep it in the air. Military personnel get paid to take risk, as a common passenger on a commercial airline, I don't care to take those risks and don't want to be on a plane that can't be flown by a skilled pilot if the flight control system fails.
Tim
Tim 20 ساعات قبل
This is the best Airbus commercial I've ever seen.
CatWizard2307
CatWizard2307 20 ساعات قبل
Why didn’t Boeing raise the 737’s ground clearance by a foot or two so that the engine would actually fit under the wing? It would have saved hundreds of lives
CatWizard2307
CatWizard2307 20 ساعات قبل
Why didn’t Boeing raise the 737’s ground clearance by a foot or two? It would have saved hundreds if lives
Bill Bright
Bill Bright 21 ساعات قبل
Be interesting to see how well received the craft is upon recertification.
Данила Чебров
Данила Чебров 21 ساعات قبل
Oh look, in both cases crew during 12 minutes cannot regocnize standart failure scenario "stabilizer runaway condition" and perform proper action. For what purpose they are sitting in cockpit, only for make photos to instagram? If they know about MCAS or no, the must perform standart memory procedure, due to stab runaway may be caused by several reasons, it's not pilot business for perform investigation in flight of root cause of runaway. I think that's why sir Boeing don't inform crew about MCAS at entering 737Max in service - cause it not recall new actions from crew and there is no crew infuence for MCAS.
BBB
BBB 21 ساعات قبل
Boeing should just admit Airbus is better than them
BBB
BBB 21 ساعات قبل
Boeing should be sued and responsible for all the death caused!
Sklawz
Sklawz 22 ساعات قبل
if they could only engineer a plane to be as durable as a persons shoe.
Damon Brown
Damon Brown 22 ساعات قبل
How are they getting away with this stuff.These stupid people care about money more than peoples lives.
Sharif Ul Alam
Sharif Ul Alam 22 ساعات قبل
so, you are saying that the planes were crushed on the pilots' first flights? If not, then they should be used to with the new technology (you've mentioned)!
Air Raid
Air Raid 23 ساعات قبل
this is what happens when u put something to early on the market without testing it out enough. and all those dead people only because of money and the wish of being better than someone else
enigma mist
enigma mist 23 ساعات قبل
Capitalism needs control. It has gone too far.
Uday Puranik
Uday Puranik أيام قبل
In that case why did Dassault Falcon, Cessna Citation, Fokker and other similar models which had fuselage mounted engines which were clearly above the wings never had such a problem?
BrainStem Recruiter
BrainStem Recruiter أيام قبل
Next time make the landing gear taller.
DJ DA VINCI
DJ DA VINCI أيام قبل
Lawsuit of the century. 💰
Raymond Hydes
Raymond Hydes أيام قبل
SAD!!
Michael Randlöv
Michael Randlöv أيام قبل
Very Good video,thankyou. It's really hard to understand why Boeing did'nt just extended the landinggears so that they could make room för the New engines
Nick Finan
Nick Finan أيام قبل
So Boeing completely changed the aerodynamics of the 737 but said it was the same as previous models? Who took care of the certification? Oh Boeing did!!! Says it all. So the Boeing 737 Max is an UNCERTIFIED aircraft essentially.
Nick Finan
Nick Finan 3 ساعات قبل
+Reasons_ Why_ I think you should take a look at that because the FAA just did the signing off. Boeing did the certifying. The FAA just saw an opportunity to cut costs which has probably contributed to the 300+ deaths on the stupid Max version of the 737. How boeing had the cheek to say it was the same as a 737-800 I will never work out. Its completely different! www.cnbc.com/2019/04/11/faa-needs-boeing-to-help-certify-its-own-planes-despite-criticism.html
Reasons_ Why_
Reasons_ Why_ 9 ساعات قبل
no the FAA took care of the certification... Boeing had no part in the approval of airworthiness of the plane..
Aaron Simpson-Bean
Aaron Simpson-Bean أيام قبل
Did anyone see the 787: Broken Dreams documentary? Now the flawed design of the 737... Boeing is compromising safety for capital!
Marco Santos
Marco Santos أيام قبل
Problem here was that accidents werent in America with americans dying cause of it, so it must likely is gonna "slide" and wont impact the company as it should, because there should be real legal and financial backlash to boeing so they would learn the lesson wich they wont. But in all at least Airbus is now ahead and will continue to be cause of this stupid things, only problem is that more ppl are gonna die from decisions like this cause of inaction by authorities towards boeing. Finally it really stuns me how this sort of stuff is still possible to happen this days, and how companies still buy faulty equipment...
john adams
john adams أيام قبل
Profits Vs. People. No contest.
GK Fujiwara Esquibel
GK Fujiwara Esquibel أيام قبل
They (Boeing) Should Have Raised The Ground Level Of Their Planes A Bit Higher. But Nope. They Had To Raise The Engine Higher On The Wing, Which Made It Have A Side Effect. #YouHadOneJob
Reasons_ Why_
Reasons_ Why_ 9 ساعات قبل
it doesn't work that way...
Tony Born
Tony Born أيام قبل
This is not actually correct, showing a fair amount of ignorance of Theory of Flight. The engines on the 737 Max being mounted higher would actually REDUCE the thrust - drag couple, not increase it. ALL aircraft with under-wing engines will tend to pitch up when power is applied and vice-versa. Also, aircraft have been fitted with anti-stall devices for at least 40 years. They will first give a "Stick Shake" warning to the pilots that the angle of attack is approaching a critical amount - then as a last resort the stick is pulled out of the pilot's hands and moved fully forward to un-stall the aircraft. BUT, like all systems, it can go wrong. What IS different, and what went wrong here, is that in most aircraft there is a simple and quick way to completely disengage the anti-stall system. THIS was the problem with the crashes, the pilots couldn't do that.
Bugz Murphy
Bugz Murphy 3 ساعات قبل
Well said, Tony Born. Your statement made more sense than all the screaming and shouting that the majority of responses meant altogether. The SOFTWARE ended up basically aggravating a situation that was improperly identified, inadequately addressed, and worst of all, it took control out of the pilots' hands at the most critical time, resulting in airplanes going into a "propoising"(I know this ain't the proper term. so sue me) action that no one could stop, even if they had been trained and aware that the fault existed. The LAST thing you want to do in any aircraft is to pull the controls out of the pilots' hands, and hand it over to a half-baked computer program that was subject to failure because somebody didn't know how to or where to properly install the sensors on which that program depended. The screamers wanted to yell "murder" and all sorts of calumnies. And blame it on Boeing's greed. Sorry folks, NO company on earth (at least one run in the free world) decides that "we want more money. So what if people die?". Murder? NO. Bad design? Yep. Stupid calls made by the design (computer) group. Yep. Not murder. Should flight rules be modified so that an unproven computer program/sensor program be able to override the pilots? Yep. PIlots know when things go wrong. They can feel it in their guts. Computers, having nothing but programming, don't actually know if they are performing as programmed, or if they are busy causing an airplane to play loop-the-loop. The program will not make the proper changes until somebody changes, and certifies, the programming, and a shitbox full of testing is carried out and certified likewise.
jp
jp أيام قبل
I am afraid this business is typical of many large American companies. Nestle - look at what the promised when they took over Cadbury's, now it's just a shadow of what it was. All they really wanted was the name. I'll never knowingly buy anything made by Nestle. God Bless America, more like God Help America. Pure GREED - at ANY cost.
TheArthurkan
TheArthurkan أيام قبل
And no one is held accountable
ARVID LYSTNUR
ARVID LYSTNUR أيام قبل
This report is faulty. By putting the larger engines up and forwards, the plane initially dove downward, then when redesigned it had a tendency to climb to steeply, bringing a greater chance of stall, thus the FAULTY MCAS system was a poorly engineered fix! The MCAS system CANNOT be shutdown without shutting off the power assisting TRIM Control. To level the plane the pilots must adjust the trim and the manual process takes to long. Two solutions. Redesign the plane so that it flys properly without assistance! (Yes expensive) Put a G****M override switch on the G****M MCAS system! (Probably already done)
Rick Nieuwland
Rick Nieuwland أيام قبل
so this is how you make money by LYING to millions of people. the official report are not done and you claim to have found a problem.
Ultra Mega
Ultra Mega أيام قبل
they couldn't just make the planes taller?....
Baconator Aviator
Baconator Aviator أيام قبل
You can’t just assume it was the MCAS entirely. The report has not been released yet... making this whole video essentially clickbait.
Bobby Rock
Bobby Rock أيام قبل
Greed.....the curse of man.
Dream Diction
Dream Diction أيام قبل
Nothing crashed at Shanksville.
Juckt Nicht
Juckt Nicht أيام قبل
the rush for profits in capitalism claims these deaths
lunt banzi
lunt banzi أيام قبل
This dumbass they moved it forward not up
MR shooter 10725
MR shooter 10725 أيام قبل
I trust Airbus and JetBlue better because they have better safer machines than Boeing
ZIUKH
ZIUKH أيام قبل
Incredible. That many people died just so that a company wouldn't fall behind another.
Mat A
Mat A أيام قبل
"Nearly every 737 Neo has been grounded?" . nearly??
Indra Niptama
Indra Niptama أيام قبل
so it's true when the CEO of LION AIR said they are only dollars in front of Boeing Company. how Boeing company take responsibility for hundreds of people who died inside their planes?
Ly Ralei
Ly Ralei أيام قبل
This could've been avoided if: 1. They told the pilots about the MCAS for them to train more on how to control the plane and not fighting the MCAS functions. 2. If they didn't say that the new plane behaves like the previous one even if it doesn't because of the f*cking MCAS. They are more worried on how the buyers will compare both planes and ofcourse, people will tend to pick the one that is better but feels like the previous version like the A320NEO. 3. If they didn't rush things out and have a detailed plan and gave more time to learn all about the errors that the new plane is producing.
Andres Mendez
Andres Mendez 21 ساعات قبل
ok, but all this is criminal. THE cEO not fired???
Ly Ralei
Ly Ralei أيام قبل
This could've been avoided if: 1. They told the pilots about the MCAS for them to train more on how to control the plane and not fighting the MCAS functions. 2. If they didn't say that the new plane behaves like the previous one even if it doesn't because of the f*cking MCAS. They are more worried on how the buyers will compare both planes and ofcourse, people will tend to pick the one that is better but feels like the previous version like the A320NEO. 3. If they didn't rush things out and have a detailed plan and gave more time to learn all about the errors that the new plane is producing.
Peter1x2y
Peter1x2y أيام قبل
*Two questions: what does Boing pay per killed passenger,* *and where starts the next 737 max ?*
Lance Burley
Lance Burley 12 ساعات قبل
You cant sue them or airline........its built into the ticket
Virus Remover Expert
Virus Remover Expert أيام قبل
Boeing, please take your supporters a free ride on your test flights.
Diesel Beasty
Diesel Beasty أيام قبل
Boeing needs to pay for their corporate greed. the decision makers who pushed this model to production needs to be punished severely along with FAA personnel who certified it. Alas it's too late for the 370 souls who left earth . We the people of the world are so ignorant of how corporates use us as guinea pigs and thinks of the common man as cattle for them to herd and misuse to earn more money and power. How much is enough....it never is enough...basic nature of humans.
John Mackintosh
John Mackintosh أيام قبل
Not the first time boeing cut corners,read about engineers getting the sack over safety fears on the Dreamliner,
Steve Loney
Steve Loney أيام قبل
This video is so clearly funded by Airbus.
galacticito ack
galacticito ack أيام قبل
guys the plane was just tired stop blaming it
Andres Mendez
Andres Mendez 21 ساعات قبل
your posting quite idiotic and disrespectful to many families. you a brainless teenager or an old useless good for nothing junky?
Steve Loney
Steve Loney أيام قبل
This video is so clearly funded by Airbus.
Roman Klein
Roman Klein أيام قبل
Vox is clearly unimformed and ignorant of actual facts of the cause of the 2 flights to crash. As a pilot, the engines being mounted higher have nothing to do with this incident it is purely computer malfuntion.
Bill Borden
Bill Borden أيام قبل
Sad. Is it safe to say the CEO's at Boeing are responsible for loss of life? Or would that be too harsh?
Dora the Axe-plorer
Dora the Axe-plorer أيام قبل
The new DC-10
TravailNoir
TravailNoir أيام قبل
Regulation is Important!!! stop electing people pushing deregulation.
Its Viyana!
Its Viyana! أيام قبل
This is so sad, over 100 people died just because another person wanted to be the best. I feel so bad for all of the families of the people on board the plane when it crashed. Just because of this rush to have the best plane some young people couldn’t live their life to the fullest. Rest In Peace everyone who was on board the Boeing 737 MAX 8.
Frank Jimenez
Frank Jimenez أيام قبل
People say your more likely to crash in a car than a plane but I say which one are you more likely to survive??
n1kkoGFX
n1kkoGFX 2 ساعات قبل
Just stay home
Viktor M
Viktor M 18 ساعات قبل
on per-mile-traveled basis planes are still safer (except for the ill-fated MAX), but not necessarily per trip or flight.
LD4
LD4 22 ساعات قبل
Good point.. 🤔
Aryav Saigal
Aryav Saigal أيام قبل
Toby Meehan xD
Toby Meehan
Toby Meehan أيام قبل
Train.
Thiago Elias Rezende Silva
This video lacks in something pretty basic in every accident investigation: Aviation accidents doesn’t happens because one single cause. MCAS alone didn’t caused the accident. It surely may have contributed, but there are many other factors, so that’s why media should wait for the FINAL report, that will be ready probably after a year of investigation. This video is only speculation about what was disclosed in the partial reports and airworthiness directives. I’m really sorry for all people that loss their lives and their relatives, but this video won’t help to know what really happened. Vox isn’t NTSB
glick glack
glick glack أيام قبل
Well I got a flight next month. Oh golly
Amir Zalloum
Amir Zalloum أيام قبل
The scary part is that even if they fix the software to lower the tip of the plane, Is hard to trust because the problem is the aerodynamics of the plane
Damien Engemann
Damien Engemann 2 ساعات قبل
+John S I am a pilot. It doesn't matters which plane you use, they all have the nose going up when you increase the power & airspeed. And every pilot knows how to counter this properly.
John S
John S 2 ساعات قبل
+Damien Engemann - I don't think that increased lift on the wings is the issue. The thrust vector of the engines is below the center of gravity and below the drag of the fuselage and wings. When power is applied, it causes the nose to lift just the same way as accelerating in a car causes the nose to lift. The difference is that, in a car, this is self-limiting. In a plane, it can result in a catastrophic stall. The pilots are not assumed to be retards, but flying nose-high in the climbout will reduce airspeed which might cause a pilot to increase power which can make things worse while the aircraft is still close to the ground. This should have been addressed in training, which Boeing wanted to avoid and tried to fix in software. Unfortunately, my understanding is that the software only used input from one of the attitude sensors, which was not functioning properly. There was an extra cost option to use both sensors and to give a warning when they disagreed. The decision by Boeing to not make this option standard, along with trying to conceal the need for additional training is what caused these accidents and may ruin Boeing.
Damien Engemann
Damien Engemann 3 ساعات قبل
+Yakav8r55m Even planes with the engines in the nose or on the top. Why? Because higher airspeed means higher efficiency of the wings, higher lift. EVERY plane goes up when you increase the airspeed, and goes down when you reduce it. Any pilot know that and is capable of correcting this himself... Boeing just assumed that pilots were retards, and decided to let a computer do the job...
Adam Klein
Adam Klein 4 ساعات قبل
+Reasons_ Why_ if you are referring to the MCAS, that is incorrect.
Yakav8r55m
Yakav8r55m 8 ساعات قبل
@ Amir Zalloum - Typically, most airliners with underslung engines exhibit some form of pitch up tendency at high thrust settings. Airframe design usually is a compromise to achieve the great desired result.
rrrrr
rrrrr أيام قبل
Thanks The Lightningll for the comment about the sensors costing 10s of thousands of dollars each. So an extra 4 sensors at $40,000 each is $160K. I think that's the price of some high end luxury cars (and not even exotic ones). This is a full size airplane! It's for hundreds of people They can't spend a few extra hundred thousand on it?
thereissomecoolstuff
thereissomecoolstuff أيام قبل
Hmmm, who is Alvin Chang? Where did he get his degree in aviation engineering? This is Alvin Chang www.vox.com/authors/alvin/archives/24 People please do you own research. Boeing is not the devil..The 737 Max is a safe aircraft. The plane flew millions of miles without incident. 2 crashes Jakarta and Ethiopia. Is any loss of life horrible, absolutely. Do adjustments need to be made in a new aircraft. Absolutely. Grounding sure. Fix it. Demonizing Boeing over something everyone does. Naw.. I suggest all you haters take the bus or train.. you'll feel much better...
SuperKooks
SuperKooks أيام قبل
This did not mention that the MCAS system only trimmed the aircraft, it did not move the elevator, only the horizontal stabilizer. The trim system is controllable by a switch on the yoke (control stick). It is very easy to tell whether the MCAS is trimming as the wheel next to your leg is spinning and suddenly the yoke would feel heavier. Normally if you feel it getting heavier then you just adjust the trim. Then it happens again, so you trim again. This keeps happening until you realize that something is wrong. This is the part where they needed to be trained more so they knew how to disable the MCAS system. It is not entirely the fault of Boeing but it is still not the fault of the airline who should have trained them more.
PJ in the valley
PJ in the valley أيام قبل
It's all about corporate greed folks. You do not fix a problem with a problem. If MCAS is not disengaged soon enough no pilot can pull the plane up. Clearly a whole new plane design was needed, not a re-positioning of the engines.
MilkBeforeCereal -
MilkBeforeCereal - أيام قبل
They only missed one thing, if they told the pilots there was a mcas system, they would realise what would be happening. R.I.P Thinking
j cop
j cop أيام قبل
Don’t see the truth being told on the news you have to hunt for it
Christopher Evans
Christopher Evans أيام قبل
Design hackers.
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